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weddingwoes
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Posted On: 11/5/2019
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Hello,

I am a permanent resident and I have a 3 year old daughter who is a Canadian citizen. We have to travel in the next 4-5 weeks outside of Canada and I do not have a permanent resident card. I read about the PRtravel document and I wanted to know what kind of risk I am taking by relying on getting that travel document in order to enter Canada at the end of our journey and also would you have any idea what the approx processing time is for those documents.



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Posted On: 11/6/2019
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Hello,

Thank you for using our forum for your question.

In regards to your question, you may find useful information in:

I need to leave Canada but do not have my PR card yet. What should I do?
https://settlement.org/ontario/immigration-citizenship/landing-and-leaving/leaving-canada/i-need-to-leave-canada-but-do-not-have-my-pr-card-yet-what-should-i-do/

Applying for a Permanent Resident Travel Document (IMM 5529)
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/application/application-forms-guides/guide-5529-applying-permanent-resident-travel-document.html#5529E7

We hope that you find this information useful.

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weddingwoes wrote:
Hello,

I am a permanent resident and I have a 3 year old daughter who is a Canadian citizen. We have to travel in the next 4-5 weeks outside of Canada and I do not have a permanent resident card. I read about the PRtravel document and I wanted to know what kind of risk I am taking by relying on getting that travel document in order to enter Canada at the end of our journey and also would you have any idea what the approx processing time is for those documents.



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Doubled
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Posted On: 11/9/2019
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Hello. I have the imm1000 record of landing which i got when i was 9 years old, i am now 30 and planning to go back to canada? Can i go back and apply for the pr?
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weddingwoes
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Posted On: 11/11/2019
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Hello,


has anyone on this forum used the Permanent Resident Travel Document? If yes, please tell me about your experience.

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Lahbib70
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Posted On: 11/12/2019
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Hello,
Here is the most probable scenario. You would probably return to Canada as a visitor not as a permanent resident or landing immigrant.
The visa officer will determine how you are entering Canada. You would probably be let in as a visitor. However, if you decide to apply for permanent residence card from within Canada , your application would not be accepted as you do not meet the physical presence requirement. There are exceptions to the 730 days physical presence requirements. Immigration officers will let you know their decision.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=1466&top=10

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Hello. I have the imm1000 record of landing which i got when i was 9 years old, i am now 30 and planning to go back to canada? Can i go back and apply for the pr?
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Posted On: 11/13/2019
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Hello,

My mother lived in Canada for over 10 years, then had to go back to Rwanda because my grandmother was dying and she went for the funeral but her PR card had expired. She left in November of 2015 and I was wondering what she would need to be able to come back to canada
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Posted On: 6 days ago
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Doubled wrote:
Hello. I have the imm1000 record of landing which i got when i was 9 years old, i am now 30 and planning to go back to canada? Can i go back and apply for the pr?


Hi Doubled,


Thank you for sharing your situation and question with us.

We can appreciate that you would be interested in this information.

We have received some information from our legal researchers


"Since the introduction of the PR Card in 2002, Records of Landing (IMM 1000) are no longer acceptable proof of status when entering Canada.
Permanent residents living abroad without a PR card will need a Permanent Resident Travel Document (PRTD) issued by a Canadian visa office abroad to travel back to Canada, as mentioned in my previous post.
However, you need to satisfy the residency obligation (i.e., be physically present in Canada for 730 days of the five-year period immediately before the examination or meet specified exemptions) before a PRTD can be issued. You may want to consult with a lawyer if you want to know whether these specified exemptions apply to your case.
It is important to note that a person does not lose his/her PR status until a final determination has been made.
You can find more information under this thread: Re-Application of PR Card [https://discuss.settlement.org/topic43542-reapplication-of-pr-card.aspx]
Therefore, while your PR status is not formally removed, you would not be able to apply for a temporary resident visa or an Electronic Travel Authorization (eTA) to travel to Canada.
There is a formal process to renounce your permanent resident status voluntarily should you wish to do so without having visa officers to assess whether you are still a permanent resident of Canada. Please refer to:
Guide 5781 – Applying to Voluntarily Renounce Your Permanent Resident Status [http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5781ETOC.asp]"





We suggest that it is important and probably best that you speak to a reputable Lawyer or a registered and reputable Immigration Consultant who is familiar with Canadian immigration issues for additional information regarding your situation and before you start any application processes.


I hope this information is helpful. Please let us know if you have further questions and if there is any follow up to your question/situation


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Theresa Settlement.Org Team,
Certified Community Resource Specialist (CCRS)
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Posted On: 3 days ago
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weddingwoes wrote:
Hello,

My mother lived in Canada for over 10 years, then had to go back to Rwanda because my grandmother was dying and she went for the funeral but her PR card had expired. She left in November of 2015 and I was wondering what she would need to be able to come back to canada

Hello There,

Thank you for sharing your situation and question with us.

Based on information on the IRCC website, your mother will likely need to apply for a Permanent Resident Travel Document to return to Canada.

According to the IRCC Help Centre article What happens if my permanent resident card expires while I am outside Canada?:
If you’re outside Canada and don’t have a valid PR card, you need a permanent resident travel document (PRTD) to return to Canada. You can only apply for a PRTD from outside Canada. If you try to return to Canada without a PR card or PRTD, you may not be able to take your flight, train, bus or boat to Canada.


You may find useful information in the article on Settlement.Org, What are the residency requirements for permanent residents (PRs)? Here is an excerpt:

To meet these residency obligations, you must be physically present in Canada for at least 730 days (2 years) in every 5-year period. The 5-year period is assessed on a rolling basis. Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) will look back at your time in Canada over the previous 5 years.


This means that you can spend a total of up to 3 years outside of Canada during a 5-year period.

IRCC may take humanitarian and compassionate reasons into consideration for your mother staying outside of Canada for the time that she has. This is up to IRCC and it would be best for your mother to contact the local visa office or IRCC via web form to get more details about her specific application and what kind of supporting documents she may require.

You may also wish to consult a reputable and registered immigration consultant or an immigration lawyer about her situation.

We hope this information is helpful. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to post them here.

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